From jjllambias@hotmail.com Wed Sep 26 19:04:08 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_2); 27 Sep 2001 02:04:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 14100 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2001 02:04:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Sep 2001 02:04:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.78) by mta3 with SMTP; 27 Sep 2001 02:04:07 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 19:04:07 -0700 Received: from 200.41.247.34 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2001 02:04:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.247.34] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Set of answers encore Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 02:04:07 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Sep 2001 02:04:07.0696 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0E8B900:01C146F8] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 11093 la pycyn cusku di'e > > (1) la djan krici le du'u la bil se nanca > > le tenfa be li 389017 bei li 1/3 > > > > (2) la djan krici le du'u le se nanca be la bil > > cu tenfa li 389017 li 1/3 > >Well, I suppose that the first is less suspect than the second, but I think >it still runs into the problem that John doesn't even believe (we can >assume) >that 73 is the cube root of 389017 and so had not such beliefs about it in >any place in the clause. But does my referring to 73 that way require that John also refer to it that way in his belief? How about if I say: ko'a goi le tenfa be li 389017 bei li 1/3 zo'u la djan krici le du'u la bil nanca ko'a Does {ko'a} carry with it the intension, or just the extension? >Just ask him; he'll say "no." But what should I ask him? And if he doesn't know what the referent of {le tenfa be li 389017 bei li 1/3} is, shouldn't he rather answer {le tenfa ku ki'a}? mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp