From cowan@ccil.org Wed Sep 05 10:29:32 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2); 5 Sep 2001 17:29:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 90045 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2001 17:07:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Sep 2001 17:07:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.100) by mta2 with SMTP; 5 Sep 2001 17:07:54 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 15eg9c-00068n-00; Wed, 05 Sep 2001 13:07:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [lojban] Another stab at a Record on ce'u In-Reply-To: from And Rosta at "Aug 30, 2001 00:51:35 am" To: a.rosta@ntlworld.com Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 13:07:56 -0400 (EDT) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 10462 And Rosta scripsit: > or, in an intriguing novel (but probably bad) usage I haven't > considered before: > > xu ro ka ce'u -daterape ce'u ka ce'u -rape ce'u > xu ro si'o -daterape kei si'o -rape I think that no concept of date rape is a concept of rape -- they are distinct concepts. Rather, every *event* of date rape is an event of rape: ro nu -daterape kei nu -rape. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org Please leave your values | Check your assumptions. In fact, at the front desk. | check your assumptions at the door. --sign in Paris hotel | --Miles Vorkosigan