From a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com Fri Sep 07 09:09:31 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 7 Sep 2001 16:09:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 17462 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2001 15:58:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Sep 2001 15:58:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta02-svc.ntlworld.com) (62.253.162.42) by mta3 with SMTP; 7 Sep 2001 15:58:31 -0000 Received: from andrew ([62.253.84.175]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010907155829.LCHR29790.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@andrew> for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2001 16:58:29 +0100 Reply-To: To: Subject: RE: [lojban] the set of answers Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 16:57:46 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <96.19b576d8.28c9e034@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 10547 pc: > a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com writes: > > It is not the set {la djan; la djan e la meris; la djan enai la meris; > > noda; ... }. > > Right. Now, the downside to the way you put it is that that can't > possibly be the proper logical formulation, since the list of > possible answers is infinite. > > Except that none of these is a proper answer, merely an ellipsis from a > proper answer. The answer to a direct question is a full bridi, just as the > questiion is. I was talking about the previous para where Jorge defines the set of answers as {la djan klama, la djan e la meris klama, ...}. I agree that that's the set of answers, and that it helps towards an explicit understanding of Qkau, but it doesn't get us to a satisfactory Qkau-less logical form. (But my "da is extension of" approach does.) > By the way, one thing you said is right: this makes explaining direct > questions on the basis of indirect the easiest way to go, once the principle > gets established. Good. --And.