From a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com Thu Sep 06 19:25:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_2_1); 7 Sep 2001 02:25:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 73829 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2001 02:24:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Sep 2001 02:24:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta06-svc.ntlworld.com) (62.253.162.46) by mta2 with SMTP; 7 Sep 2001 02:24:38 -0000 Received: from andrew ([62.253.84.2]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010907022436.JEEW288.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@andrew> for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2001 03:24:36 +0100 Reply-To: To: Subject: RE: [lojban] Re: ce'u Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 03:23:44 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9n98s4+iglj@eGroups.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 10508 Adam: > la .and. cusku di'e > > > A fatci is something that is true of the local universe. A ka'e > fatci > > then is something that could be true of the local universe and a > ca'a > > fatci is something that actually is true of the local universe. > > "X dies before X is born" is not a ka'e fatci. "I live in Paris" is > > a ka'e but not a ca'a fatci. "I live in London" is a ka'e and a ca'a > > fatci. > > So 'nu' is to 'fasnu' as 'du'u' is to what? 'bridi' > > This is indeed a matter on the philosophical end of semantics rather > than > > the grammatical end. However, if the semantics of "nu" has even the > > most microscopic resemblance to what "event" means, then a nu is > something > > that consists of a portion of spacetime. "2+2=4" does not consist of > a > > portion of spacetime. > > .i mi na tugni fi le du'u le du'u li re su'i re du li vo cu canlu > najenai se ditcu I can never remember what those compound connectives mean, and I can't work out "ditcu" either. So I don't understand what you're disagreeing about. If you think "2+2=4" consists of a portion of spacetime, which portion is it?