From thinkit8@lycos.com Mon Oct 01 23:01:29 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: thinkit8@lycos.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 2 Oct 2001 06:01:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 54835 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2001 06:01:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Oct 2001 06:01:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n32.groups.yahoo.com) (10.1.2.221) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Oct 2001 06:01:29 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: thinkit8@lycos.com Received: from [10.1.4.67] by n32.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2001 06:01:21 -0000 Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 06:01:03 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: possible A-F... Message-ID: <9pbl6v+qrho@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <20011002010133.B1021@twcny.rr.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2092 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.4.255.70 From: thinkit8@lycos.com X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 11269 --- In lojban@y..., Rob Speer wrote: > On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 03:53:55AM -0000, thinkit8@l... wrote: > > --- In lojban@y..., pycyn@a... wrote: > > > Well, it is lost now. What I have with reasonable confidence is > > that dek is > > > 1AC. a reversed 7 (1BD). El is probably A2C, an E (1A2C3)with its > > top and > > > bottom lopped, though it might be A2CD, and lc h. If not that > > latter, then > > > Zen is probably AB2Cm a backward 4 (AB2D). Tris then appears to be > > 1AB2C, a > > > cap P. But that leaves cat as a discontinuous 1C3 and kink as a > > stubby 2C, > > > so I assume the visual divides go wrong somewhere. Maybe tris is > > F, 1A2C, > > > and cat is C, 1AC3. That still leaves a stubby kink. > > I can see the digits just fine: > _ _ _ > | |_ _| |_ | |_ > | | | | _| | > > (backwards 7, t-shape pointing right, zigzag, zigzag the other way, backwards > C, 5 without the base) > > > um...what the hell are you trying to say? what's a dek? what's an > > El? is this anti-hex poetry or something? the original message is > > at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/message/11218. it should be > > pretty obvious what seven sigment display corresponds to the *'s if > > you used fixed width. > > You'd think such an avid supporter of hex wouldn't be so hostile toward an > attempt to name the extra digits in English. well the names weren't explained at all, and why is zen capitalized when the rest aren't? and the hex numbers seem to be randomly written...can you figure it out? i wonder if its to tease my idea of a hex-based language :). speaking of names, why not just use the lojban names? > I'm not sure about the system he's using to describe the segments, but I picked > up that he's calling the digits dek, el, zen, tris, cat, kink. > > Incidentally, I still haven't heard you quite explain why you think hex should > be used everywhere. What advantages does it have? it's more compact than binary and quaternary. :) > -- > la rab.spir > noi sarji zo gumri