From lojbab@lojban.org Thu Oct 04 08:08:18 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 4 Oct 2001 15:08:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 63715 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2001 15:08:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Oct 2001 15:08:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-1.cais.net) (205.252.14.71) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 Oct 2001 15:08:17 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (187.dynamic.cais.com [207.226.56.187]) by stmpy-1.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f94F8F755227 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 11:08:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011003215951.00da4100@pop.cais.com> X-Sender: vir1036@pop.cais.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 22:11:56 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: periodic hexadecimal reminder In-Reply-To: <9pd59l+ubtg@eGroups.com> References: <9p5up2+ch62@eGroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 11335 At 07:41 PM 10/2/01 +0000, hfroark@bigmailbox.net wrote: >There is one other mechanism I would like to see considered: >a way to assign a sticky base, so that one could define a >base at the beginning of a document or section, and have >the later numbers interpreted as the base in question. >Since, this wouldn't be a common operation, I don't think >that a cmavo needs to be assigned for that purpose. There already is one. You can make all manner of metalinguistic sentences anywhere in Lojban text using ti'o/sei+bridi-tail. You can unambiguously set scope larger than a single sentence by enclosing the scoped text in tu'e/tu'u brackets, and appending the ti'o/sei construct to the tu'e. In this event it acts kinda as a footnote to the scoped text. >The most radical part of my suggestion is creating a new >cmavo for use in ju'i to indicate base sixteen. Since Lojban usage has not in fact used ju'i much with *any* base values, it is hard to justify adding more cmavo. The proper way to do this is to establish usage IN LOJBAN using an ad hoc experimental cmavo which you define as pano ju'i dau at first use, and then after people come to accept and use such a word repeatedly, the case is built for adding a word to the official language after the baseline ends. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org