From pycyn@aol.com Thu Oct 04 14:32:23 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 4 Oct 2001 21:30:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 52913 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2001 21:30:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by 10.1.1.224 with QMQP; 4 Oct 2001 21:30:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r03.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.99) by mta3 with SMTP; 4 Oct 2001 21:32:17 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id r.29.1bb8abac (3842) for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 17:32:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <29.1bb8abac.28ee2f5c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 17:32:12 EDT Subject: Fwd: Human Rights petition: women in Afghanistan To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_29.1bb8abac.28ee2f5c_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10535 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 11350 --part1_29.1bb8abac.28ee2f5c_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_29.1bb8abac.28ee2f5c_alt_boundary" --part1_29.1bb8abac.28ee2f5c_alt_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/4/2001 10:28:27 AM Central Daylight Time, baker@gtw.net writes: > Subject: Please sign and pass it on. > > If you decide not to forward this, please send it back to me. > > This is an actual petition, and "signatures" will be lost if you drop the > line. > > Please take three minutes out of your life to do your part. Be sure to > include other members of your household who are willing to sign. > > Oprah recently had a show about this atrocity and it was heartbreaking. > > Petition to the United Nations Background Information: Madhu, the > government of Afghanistan, is waging a war upon women. > > Since the Taliban took power in 1996, women have had to wear burqua and > have been beaten and stoned in public for not having the proper attire, > even if this means simply not having the mesh covering in front of their > eyes. One woman was beaten to death by an angry mob of fundamentalists for > accidentally exposing her arm(!) while she was driving. Another was stoned > to death for trying to leave the country with a man that was not a > relative. Women are not allowed to work or even go out in public without a > male relative; professional women such as professors, translators, > doctors,lawyers, artists and writers have been forced from their jobs and > restricted to their homes. Homes where a woman is present must have their > windows painted so that she can never be seen by outsiders. They must wear > silent shoes so that they are never heard. Women live in fear of their > lives for the slightest misbehavior. > > Because they cannot work, those without male relatives or husbands are > either starving to death or begging in the street,even if they hold > Ph.D.'s. Depression is becoming so widespread that it has reached > emergency levels. There is no way in such an extreme Islamic society to > know the suicide rate with certainty, but relief workers are estimating > that the suicide rate among women must be extraordinarily high: those who > cannot find proper medication and treatment for severe depression and would > rather take their lives than live in such conditions. > > At one of the rare hospitals for women, a reporter found still, nearly > lifeless bodies lying motionless on top of beds, wrapped in their burqua, > unwilling to speak, eat,or do anything, but slowly wasting away. Others > have gone mad and were seen crouched in corners, perpetually rocking or > crying, most of them in fear. > > It is at the point where the term "human rights violations" has become an > understatement. Husbands have the power of life and death over their women > relatives, especially their wives, but an angry mob has just as much right > to stone or beat a woman, often to death, for exposing an inch of flesh or > offending them in the slightest way. Women enjoyed relative freedom: to > work, to dress generally as they wanted, and to drive and appear in public > alone until only 1996. The rapidity of this transition is the main reason > for the depression and suicide; Women who were once educators or doctors or > simply used to basic human freedoms are now severely restricted and treated > as subhuman in the name of right-wing fundamentalist Islam. It is not > their tradition or "culture," but it is alien to them, and it is extreme > even for those cultures where fundamentalism is the rule. > > Everyone has a right to a tolerable human existence, even if they are women > in a Muslim country. > > If we can threaten military force in Kosovo the name of human rights for > the sake of ethnic Albanians, citizens of the world can certainly express > peaceful outrage at the oppression, murder and injustice committed against > women by the Taliban. > > > STATEMENT: In signing this, we agree that the current treatment of women in > Afghanistan is completely UNACCEPTABLE and deserves action by the United > Nations and that the current situation overseas will not be tolerated. > > Women's Rights is not a small issue anywhere, and it is UNACCEPTABLE for > women in 2001 to be treated as subhuman and as so much property. > > Equality and human decency is a fundamental RIGHT, not a freedom to be > granted, whether one lives in Afghanistan or elsewhere. > > > 1) James Chism Jr. , Pontoon Beach , IL USA > 2) Patricia Chism , Granite City ,IL USA > 3) James Chism Sr., Granite City , IL USA > 4) Beth Barnes , Granite City , IL USA > 5) Bryan Barnes , Granite City , IL USA > 6) Marta Scaturro, Granite City, IL USA > 7) Tom Scaturro, Granite City, IL USA > 8) Susan H Hawkins, St Louis, MO USA > 9) Ellen Hammond, Cincinnati, Ohio USA > 10) Ann F. Baker > 11) Martha K. Baker 12) John E. Clifford > > DIRECTIONS: PLEASE COPY this email on to a new message, sign the bottom > and forward it to everyone on your distribution lists. If you receive this > list with over 300 names on it, please email a copy to > sarabande@brandeis.edu. > > Even if you decide not to sign, please don't kill this petition. Thanks > > > > --part1_29.1bb8abac.28ee2f5c_alt_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/4/2001 10:28:27 AM Central Daylight Time, baker@gtw.net writes:


Subject: Please sign and pass it on.

If you decide not to forward this, please send it back to me.

This is an actual petition, and "signatures" will be lost if you drop the line.  

Please take three minutes out of your life to do your part.  Be sure to include other members of your household who are willing to sign.

Oprah recently had a show about this atrocity and it was heartbreaking.  

Petition to the United Nations Background Information: Madhu, the government of Afghanistan, is waging a war upon women.

Since the Taliban took power in 1996, women have had to wear burqua and have been beaten and stoned in public for not having the proper attire, even if this means simply not having the mesh covering in front of their eyes.  One woman was beaten to death by an angry mob of fundamentalists for accidentally exposing her arm(!) while she was driving.  Another was stoned to death for trying to leave the country with a man that was not a relative.  Women are not allowed to work or even go out in public without a male relative; professional women such as professors, translators, doctors,lawyers, artists and writers have been forced from their jobs and restricted to their homes.  Homes where a woman is present must have their windows painted so that she can never be seen by outsiders.  They must wear silent shoes so that they are never heard.  Women live in fear of their lives for the slightest misbehavior.

Because they cannot work, those without male relatives or husbands are either starving to death or begging in the street,even if they hold Ph.D.'s.  Depression is becoming so widespread that it has reached emergency levels.  There is no way in such an extreme Islamic society to know the suicide rate with certainty, but relief workers are estimating that the suicide rate among women must be extraordinarily high: those who cannot find proper medication and treatment for severe depression and would rather take their lives than live in such conditions.

At one of the rare hospitals for women, a reporter found still, nearly lifeless bodies lying motionless on top of beds, wrapped in their burqua, unwilling to speak, eat,or do anything, but slowly wasting away.  Others have gone mad and were seen crouched in corners, perpetually rocking or crying, most of them in fear.

It is at the point where the term "human rights violations" has become an understatement.  Husbands have the power of life and death over their women relatives, especially their wives, but an angry mob has just as much right to stone or beat a woman, often to death, for exposing an inch of flesh or offending them in the slightest way.  Women enjoyed relative freedom: to work, to dress generally as they wanted, and to drive and appear in public alone until only 1996.  The rapidity of this transition is the main reason for the depression and suicide; Women who were once educators or doctors or simply used to basic human freedoms are now severely restricted and treated as subhuman in the name of right-wing fundamentalist Islam.  It is not their tradition or "culture," but it is alien to them, and it is extreme even for those cultures where fundamentalism is the rule.

Everyone has a right to a tolerable human existence, even if they are women in a Muslim country.

If we can threaten military force in Kosovo the name of human rights for the sake of ethnic Albanians, citizens of the world can certainly express peaceful outrage at the oppression, murder and injustice committed against women by the Taliban.



STATEMENT: In signing this, we agree that the current treatment of women in Afghanistan is completely UNACCEPTABLE and deserves action by the United Nations and that the current situation overseas will not be tolerated.


Women's Rights is not a small issue anywhere, and it is UNACCEPTABLE for women in 2001 to be treated as subhuman and as so much property.

Equality and human decency is a fundamental RIGHT, not a freedom to be granted, whether one lives in Afghanistan or elsewhere.



 1)  James Chism Jr. , Pontoon Beach , IL USA
 2)  Patricia Chism , Granite City ,IL USA
 3)  James Chism Sr., Granite City , IL USA
 4)  Beth Barnes , Granite City , IL USA
 5)  Bryan Barnes , Granite City , IL USA
 6)  Marta Scaturro, Granite City, IL USA
 7)  Tom Scaturro, Granite City, IL USA

 8)  Susan H Hawkins, St Louis, MO USA
 9)  Ellen Hammond, Cincinnati, Ohio USA
10) Ann F. Baker
11) Martha K. Baker

 12) John E. Clifford


> DIRECTIONS: PLEASE COPY this email on to a new message, sign the bottom and forward it to everyone on your distribution lists. If you receive this list with over 300 names on it, please email a copy to  sarabande@brandeis.edu.

Even if you decide not to sign, please don't kill this petition.  Thanks






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If you decide not to forward this, please send it back to me.=20 This is an actual petition, and "signatures" will be lost if you drop the l= ine.=20=20 Please take three minutes out of your life to do your part. Be sure to inc= lude other members of your household who are willing to sign.=20 Oprah recently had a show about this atrocity and it was heartbreaking. = =20 Petition to the United Nations Background Information: Madhu, the governmen= t of Afghanistan, is waging a war upon women.=20 Since the Taliban took power in 1996, women have had to wear burqua and hav= e been beaten and stoned in public for not having the proper attire, even i= f this means simply not having the mesh covering in front of their eyes. O= ne woman was beaten to death by an angry mob of fundamentalists for acciden= tally exposing her arm(!) while she was driving. Another was stoned to dea= th for trying to leave the country with a man that was not a relative. Wom= en are not allowed to work or even go out in public without a male relative= ; professional women such as professors, translators, doctors,lawyers, arti= sts and writers have been forced from their jobs and restricted to their ho= mes. Homes where a woman is present must have their windows painted so tha= t she can never be seen by outsiders. They must wear silent shoes so that = they are never heard. Women live in fear of their lives for the slightest = misbehavior.=20 Because they cannot work, those without male relatives or husbands are eith= er starving to death or begging in the street,even if they hold Ph.D.'s. D= epression is becoming so widespread that it has reached emergency levels. = There is no way in such an extreme Islamic society to know the suicide rate= with certainty, but relief workers are estimating that the suicide rate am= ong women must be extraordinarily high: those who cannot find proper medica= tion and treatment for severe depression and would rather take their lives = than live in such conditions.=20 At one of the rare hospitals for women, a reporter found still, nearly life= less bodies lying motionless on top of beds, wrapped in their burqua, unwil= ling to speak, eat,or do anything, but slowly wasting away. Others have go= ne mad and were seen crouched in corners, perpetually rocking or crying, mo= st of them in fear.=20 It is at the point where the term "human rights violations" has become an u= nderstatement. Husbands have the power of life and death over their women = relatives, especially their wives, but an angry mob has just as much right = to stone or beat a woman, often to death, for exposing an inch of flesh or = offending them in the slightest way. Women enjoyed relative freedom: to wo= rk, to dress generally as they wanted, and to drive and appear in public al= one until only 1996. The rapidity of this transition is the main reason fo= r the depression and suicide; Women who were once educators or doctors or s= imply used to basic human freedoms are now severely restricted and treated = as subhuman in the name of right-wing fundamentalist Islam. It is not thei= r tradition or "culture," but it is alien to them, and it is extreme even f= or those cultures where fundamentalism is the rule.=20 Everyone has a right to a tolerable human existence, even if they are women= in a Muslim country.=20 If we can threaten military force in Kosovo the name of human rights for th= e sake of ethnic Albanians, citizens of the world can certainly express pea= ceful outrage at the oppression, murder and injustice committed against wom= en by the Taliban.=20 STATEMENT: In signing this, we agree that the current treatment of women in= Afghanistan is completely UNACCEPTABLE and deserves action by the United N= ations and that the current situation overseas will not be tolerated.=20 Women's Rights is not a small issue anywhere, and it is UNACCEPTABLE for wo= men in 2001 to be treated as subhuman and as so much property.=20 Equality and human decency is a fundamental RIGHT, not a freedom to be gran= ted, whether one lives in Afghanistan or elsewhere.=20 1) James Chism Jr. , Pontoon Beach , IL USA=20 2) Patricia Chism , Granite City ,IL USA=20 3) James Chism Sr., Granite City , IL USA=20 4) Beth Barnes , Granite City , IL USA=20 5) Bryan Barnes , Granite City , IL USA=20 6) Marta Scaturro, Granite City, IL USA=20 7) Tom Scaturro, Granite City, IL USA=20 8) Susan H Hawkins, St Louis, MO USA=20 9) Ellen Hammond, Cincinnati, Ohio USA=20 10) Ann F. Baker 11) Martha K. Baker > DIRECTIONS: PLEASE COPY this email on to a new message, sign the bottom a= nd forward it to everyone on your distribution lists. If you receive this l= ist with over 300 names on it, please email a copy to sarabande@brandeis.e= du.=20 Even if you decide not to sign, please don't kill this petition. Thanks=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C14CBD.A50B5DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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From:=20 EFH13@aol.com
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 08:45:29 EDT
To:=20 ann@aah2learn.org, adamglb@juno.com, dbeaufoy@public2.east.cn.net,=20 sbeaufoy@cinci.rr.com, JBCINCY@aol.com, lcamp@wpms.net, Carocav@aol.com,=20 LNCAV@aol.com, Bbccincy@aol.com, betsy@telepak.net, MCMDePalma@aol.com,=20 PDirvin@aol.com, edgingtonpat@hotmail.com, wagreen@i-55.com,=20 cotthamm@hotmail.com, EnnyHamm@aol.com, SandHamm@aol.com, MEHammond@fcsg.co= m,=20 Dalenbob@aol.com, aeh@fuse.net, GEOPEACH@hargray.com, chopewell@cinci.rr.co= m,=20 vgjahns@yahoo.com, maryannajohnson@compuserve.com, JEJ100@aol.com,=20 shpstore@candw.ky, LSFOWLE01@aol.com, Mcruncher@aol.com, PATMRCHNT@aol.com,= =20 scmiller147@nc.rr.com, LOwen1@aol.com, Eny815@cs.com, BigSOwen@aol.com,=20 Bmperine@aol.com, JSRich123@aol.com, StefPhD@aol.com, rogersa@countryday.ne= t,=20 paulrogers@fuse.net, patanddick@dellnet.com, SEAGRdjmj@aol.com, TT2003T@aol= .com,=20 jsilvati@earthlink.net, HHSfield@aol.com, fthompson302@earthlink.net,=20 M78Trapp@aol.com, Tastegt@aol.com, wagner03@erols.com,=20 BLTW2@aol.com
Subject: Please sign and pass it on.

If you decide not to forward this, please send= it back=20 to me.

This is an actual petition, and "signatures" will be lost if= you=20 drop the line.  

Please take three minutes out of your life to = do=20 your part.  Be sure to include other members of your household who are= =20 willing to sign.

Oprah recently had a show about this atrocity and = it=20 was heartbreaking.  

Petition to the United Nations Backgrou= nd=20 Information: Madhu, the government of Afghanistan, is waging a war upon=20 women.

Since the Taliban took power in 1996, women have had = to=20 wear burqua and have been beaten and stoned in public for not having the pr= oper=20 attire, even if this means simply not having the mesh covering in front of = their=20 eyes.  One woman was beaten to death by an angry mob of fundamentalist= s for=20 accidentally exposing her arm(!) while she was driving.  Another was s= toned=20 to death for trying to leave the country with a man that was not a relative= .=20  Women are not allowed to work or even go out in public without a male= =20 relative; professional women such as professors, translators, doctors,lawye= rs,=20 artists and writers have been forced from their jobs and restricted to thei= r=20 homes.  Homes where a woman is present must have their windows painted= so=20 that she can never be seen by outsiders.  They must wear silent shoes = so=20 that they are never heard.  Women live in fear of their lives for the= =20 slightest misbehavior.

Because they cannot work, those witho= ut=20 male relatives or husbands are either starving to death or begging in the=20 street,even if they hold Ph.D.'s.  Depression is becoming so widesprea= d=20 that it has reached emergency levels.  There is no way in such an extr= eme=20 Islamic society to know the suicide rate with certainty, but relief workers= are=20 estimating that the suicide rate among women must be extraordinarily high: = those=20 who cannot find proper medication and treatment for severe depression and w= ould=20 rather take their lives than live in such conditions.

At one= of=20 the rare hospitals for women, a reporter found still, nearly lifeless bodie= s=20 lying motionless on top of beds, wrapped in their burqua, unwilling to spea= k,=20 eat,or do anything, but slowly wasting away.  Others have gone mad and= were=20 seen crouched in corners, perpetually rocking or crying, most of them in=20 fear.

It is at the point where the term "human rights violat= ions"=20 has become an understatement.  Husbands have the power of life and dea= th=20 over their women relatives, especially their wives, but an angry mob has ju= st as=20 much right to stone or beat a woman, often to death, for exposing an inch o= f=20 flesh or offending them in the slightest way.  Women enjoyed relative= =20 freedom: to work, to dress generally as they wanted, and to drive and appea= r in=20 public alone until only 1996.  The rapidity of this transition is the = main=20 reason for the depression and suicide; Women who were once educators or doc= tors=20 or simply used to basic human freedoms are now severely restricted and trea= ted=20 as subhuman in the name of right-wing fundamentalist Islam.  It is not= =20 their tradition or "culture," but it is alien to them, and it is extreme ev= en=20 for those cultures where fundamentalism is the rule.

Everyon= e has=20 a right to a tolerable human existence, even if they are women in a Muslim= =20 country.

If we can threaten military force in Kosovo the nam= e of=20 human rights for the sake of ethnic Albanians, citizens of the world can=20 certainly express peaceful outrage at the oppression, murder and injustice= =20 committed against women by the Taliban.=20


STATEMENT: In signing this, we agre= e=20 that the current treatment of women in Afghanistan is completely UNACCEPTAB= LE=20 and deserves action by the United Nations and that the current situation=20 overseas will not be tolerated.=20

Women's Rights is not a small issue anywhere, and it= is=20 UNACCEPTABLE for women in 2001 to be treated as subhuman and as so much=20 property.

Equality and human decency is a=20 fundamental RIGHT, not a freedom to be granted, whether one lives in Afghan= istan=20 or elsewhere.



  1)  = ;James=20 Chism Jr. , Pontoon Beach , IL USA
  2)  Patricia Chism = ,=20 Granite City ,IL USA
  3)  James Chism Sr., Granite City= , IL=20 USA
  4)  Beth Barnes , Granite City , IL USA=20
  5)  Bryan Barnes , Granite City , IL USA
 &nb= sp;6)=20  Marta Scaturro, Granite City, IL USA
  7)  Tom=20 Scaturro, Granite City, IL USA
  8)=20  Susan H Hawkins, St Louis, MO USA
  9)  Ellen Hamm= ond,=20 Cincinnati, Ohio USA
10) Ann=20 F. Baker
11) Martha K. Baker
> DIRECTIONS: PLEASE COPY this email on to a new=20 message, sign the bottom and forward it to everyone on your distribution li= sts.=20 If you receive this list with over 300 names on it, please email a copy to= =20  sarabande@brandeis.edu.

Even if you decide not to sign, pleas= e=20 don't kill this petition.  Thanks=20




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