From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Thu Oct 18 04:11:52 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 18 Oct 2001 11:11:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 62428 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2001 11:11:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 18 Oct 2001 11:11:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO com1.uclan.ac.uk) (193.61.255.3) by mta2 with SMTP; 18 Oct 2001 11:11:51 -0000 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:48:48 +0100 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:22:07 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 12:22:00 +0100 To: lojban Subject: Re: [lojban] ga'ezga Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline From: And Rosta X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 11614 >>> Pierre Abbat 10/18/01 01:07am >>> #I think I've figured out (for Exodus 2:2, "she [Jochebed] saw that he=20 #[Moses] was good") the word I wanted in Genesis 1:4. # #My version: .i la cevni cu catlu le gusni noi xamgu #Mark's version: .i zgana fa la cevni le gusni fi'o se jinvi loza'i xamgu #My new version: .i la cevni cu ga'ezga le gusni le ka xamgu # #ga'ezga:perceive as having quality:x1 perceives that x2 has quality x3 wit= h=20 #sense x4 under conditions x5 # #Comments? You should make it a condition of the meaning that x2 is the stimulus. Otherwise, the place structure could equally well be x1 perceives that x2 is true with sense x3 under conditions x4. (which is in fact what KJV has: not "And God saw it to be good" but "And God saw that it was good", *iirc*) --And.