From graywyvern@hotmail.com Thu Oct 11 16:18:18 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: graywyvern@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_4_1); 11 Oct 2001 23:18:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 49621 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2001 23:18:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 11 Oct 2001 23:18:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.237.137) by mta1 with SMTP; 11 Oct 2001 23:18:18 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:18:18 -0700 Received: from 65.67.96.113 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 23:18:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.67.96.113] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] metre for hamlet Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 23:18:17 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2001 23:18:18.0184 (UTC) FILETIME=[02BBEC80:01C152AB] From: "michael helsem" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 11515 >From: "G. Dyke" li'o >Nick has said that he could not really approve of any translation of Hamlet >that did not scan and I kind of agree. i think it will be hard enough to try to convey 1/10th of the English meaning without any additional constraints. surely that was a joke! li'o >my question is >this: to what extent should le Lojban metre of hamlet follow that of the >English? > i have decided counting stresses & not feet is more appropriate for Lojban poetics. (but probably prose is best for a translation.) however, if you wish to group the lines in some fashion, i have been happy in the past with alternating 4 & 2 -stress lines, so perhaps this can be considered an indigenous meter. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The time when the Bill of Rights, or the providing of historical context or satire, is most precious and most necessary is always when it is being deprecated as too dangerous, irrelevant or inappropriate at the present time." --Alexander Cockburn _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp