From pycyn@aol.com Sat Nov 24 16:04:58 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 25 Nov 2001 00:04:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 40554 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2001 00:04:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Nov 2001 00:04:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r03.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.99) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2001 00:04:58 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.55.1e3604d8 (4068) for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:04:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <55.1e3604d8.29318f9e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:04:46 EST Subject: Re: [lojban] presentation of lojban To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_55.1e3604d8.29318f9e_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10535 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Profile: kaliputra X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 12283 --part1_55.1e3604d8.29318f9e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/24/2001 11:31:01 AM Central Standard Time, ragnarok@pobox.com writes: > - esperanto may have been bigger, but > lojban isn't as small as PC seems to think. > Actually, pc has a pretty good -- even rather exaggerated -- estimate of Lojban's size, including the size of the genuinely competent users. The point was merely that we should not stress our community, since it has not done much of the sort of things that cruisers will notice and admire -- translations of classics, original work, even handy-dandy manuals (as opposed to thorough reference grammars). What we have done is mostly pretty good, once it gets accepted (which takes a while -- Esperanto had the advantage of coming from one man fully done and with a top-down structure in place), but it isn't likely to awe anyone looking at conlang sites. --part1_55.1e3604d8.29318f9e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/24/2001 11:31:01 AM Central Standard Time, ragnarok@pobox.com writes:


- esperanto may have been bigger, but
lojban isn't as small as PC seems to think.


Actually, pc has a pretty good -- even rather exaggerated -- estimate of Lojban's size, including the size of the genuinely competent users.  The point was merely that we should not stress our community, since it has not done much of the sort of things that cruisers will notice and admire -- translations of classics, original work, even handy-dandy manuals (as opposed to thorough reference grammars).  What we have done is mostly pretty good, once it gets accepted (which takes a while -- Esperanto had the advantage of coming from one man fully done and with a top-down structure in place), but it isn't likely to awe anyone looking at conlang sites. --part1_55.1e3604d8.29318f9e_boundary--