From ragnarok@pobox.com Tue Nov 06 16:00:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: raganok@intrex.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 7 Nov 2001 00:00:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 11706 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2001 00:00:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m11.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Nov 2001 00:00:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO intrex.net) (209.42.192.250) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2001 00:00:25 -0000 Received: from Craig [209.42.200.98] by intrex.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id A99BBF690094; Tue, 06 Nov 2001 19:00:27 -0500 Reply-To: To: Subject: RE: [lojban] How should "algebra" be transliterated? Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 19:00:24 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <0111061757591H.01045@neofelis> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-eGroups-From: "Craig" From: "Craig" X-Yahoo-Profile: kreig_daniyl X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 11973 >I went to the math terminology page and found {cmacrnalgebra}. The original >form is "al jabr" (in _Kitab al Jabr w al Muqabala_ by Al Khwarizmi, whose >name gives "algorithm"). The letter jim is variously pronounced (in Egypt >it's gim, whereas in Persia it's jim and a different letter is used for 'g'). >{algebra}, {aljebra}, {aldjabra} and {aldjebra} are all valid fu'ivla, as are >the same preceded by {cmacrn-}. Which should it be? Then it should be gabr or jabr, dependin on the dialect of the author. To make a poo'ivla, stick a vowel on the end and a gism with hyphen on the beginning. al should be left out, as it is a seperate word. we don't transliterate the The in nouns borrowed form Englsih, now do we? --la kreig.daniyl. 'coi doi drata mibypre .i pu temci so'i detri .i mi'o na cafne ka'e tavla .i lenu go'i cu zekri .ija'e ko mi cusku le do nambi .i mi ba go'i do .i mi'o cmila joi maltavla joi mi'atavla joi pinxe le vanjo' -la djimis.BYFet xy.sy. gubmau ckiku nacycme: 0x5C3A1E74