From a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com Sat Nov 03 19:37:46 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 4 Nov 2001 03:37:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 59125 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2001 03:37:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m6.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Nov 2001 03:37:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta02-svc.ntlworld.com) (62.253.162.42) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2001 03:37:46 -0000 Received: from andrew ([62.253.87.20]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20011104033744.SXSX5686.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@andrew> for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 03:37:44 +0000 Reply-To: To: Subject: RE: [lojban] lo with discourse-scope? Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 03:37:02 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20011102131841.D5796@digitalkingdom.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 11919 Robin: > On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 03:57:31PM -0500, Rob Speer wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 02, 2001 at 09:26:08AM -0800, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > Uhhh, doesn't da keep its binding until changed? > > > > According to recent discussion (and this dismays me greatly) {da} loses > > its binding at the next bare {.i}! > > That's patently ridiculous. > > lu da cu mulna'u .i da zmadu li reno li'u > > lu ta'a .i .uanai xu da pe de'u mulna'u li'u > > lu .o'ocu'i mi puzi cusku le du'u go'i li'u > > lu .uanaisai ku'i do puba co'a cusku lo cnino jufra li'u > > This makes da utterly and totally pointless. I will not use it in this > fashion. Maybe {da} should work as you want it to, and according to the informal rule pc subsequently restated and you were happy with. But a proper well-behaved quantifier-bound variable is not pointless, and it is good for us to have such a thing, even if it can't be da & we have to have an experimental cmavo for it instead. --And.