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To: jcowan <jcowan@reutershealth.com>
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Subject: Re: [lojban] stress, capitalization & audiovisual isomorphism
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From: And Rosta <arosta@uclan.ac.uk>
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>>> John Cowan <jcowan@reutershealth.com> 11/26/01 05:23pm >>>
#And Rosta wrote:
#> My preferred scheme for getting rid of apostrophes is to replace i and u
#> in diphthongs by y and w and then delete all apostrophes. The resulting =
orthography is, I think, unambiguous, but it makes the signification of
#> <y> subject to more complex rules than the other letters. That extra
#> complexity had been called by Lojbab a deviation from AVI.
#
#Indeed, it would be: specifically, it would cease to be an isomorphism,
#since <y> would sometimes mean [@] and sometimes [j].

but <y>-adjacent-to-V would always mean [@] and <y>-not-adjacent
to-V would always mean [j]. And vice versa from sound to spelling.
So why is this less of an isomorphism than <V>-in-penult-syllable
=3D stressed-[V] and <V>-not-in-penult =3D unstressed-[V]?

#you are free to retort that already <i> means sometimes /i/ and
#sometimes /j/, but I will riposte that there is no /j/ in
#Lojban.

My retorts are never so bereft of wisdom as that would be...

--And.