From Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Sun Nov 25 01:02:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 25 Nov 2001 09:02:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 2656 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2001 09:02:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m8.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Nov 2001 09:02:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n28.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.78) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2001 09:02:09 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Received: from [10.1.10.101] by n28.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Nov 2001 09:02:09 -0000 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 09:02:09 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Even simple texts are difficult Message-ID: <9tqc2h+ujfr@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <000b01c1759a$95619be0$0ab4003e@default> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 703 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 149.225.9.120 From: "A.W.T." X-Yahoo-Profile: aolung X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 12292 --- In lojban@y..., "Adam Raizen" wrote: > la xorxes. cusku di'e > > > {ni'a} is a tense, it can precede a selbri, but {ni'a ckune} > > does not mean "x1 is under a connifer". It means "x1 is a > > connifer under something". > > "x1 is a connifer under the speaker" That's it > > Also, modals, like all tags, can > > precede a selbri as well as a sumti. When preceding a selbri, > > the effect is usually the same as preceding a sumti which is > > understood from context (the glaring exceptions to this being > > ba'o and pu'o). >From the semantics intended, I thought it to be a mis-constructed sumti tcita, but you're right, it is not *ungrammatical*. mi'e .aulun