From gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch Sat Nov 03 03:55:08 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 3 Nov 2001 11:55:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 20472 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2001 11:55:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m12.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Nov 2001 11:55:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta9n.bluewin.ch) (195.186.1.215) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2001 11:55:07 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (62.202.36.171) by mta9n.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 6.0.032) id 3BE2A058000428C0 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 12:54:51 +0100 Message-ID: <000701c1645e$2e1f6f40$ab24ca3e@oemcomputer> To: References: <1004736215.2827.78935.m5@yahoogroups.com> Subject: re : lo with discourse scope Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 12:52:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "G. Dyke" X-Yahoo-Profile: gregvdyke X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 11905 > "An/This Englishman walks into an Irish pub. He goes up to the bar and..." > > Which Englishman? > It doesn't matter -- any old Englishman. > So not {le glico} then? > No. > So {lo glico}? > Well, no, because its quantifier should bind only what is within its scope, > yet throughout the rest of the joke, "he" and "le glico" refer back to the > Englishman. > So what we need is a way to indicate an existential quantifier that has scope > over an entire text? > Yes. > And how do we do that? > I've no idea. I'll ask The List. > > --And. > I think I'd use {lo'e} here... (Or le'e if I wanted to be influenced by the ma'oste), I'd then "call" him back with {gy} GD