From a.rosta@ntlworld.com Thu Nov 01 20:26:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@ntlworld.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 2 Nov 2001 04:26:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 16611 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2001 04:26:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m10.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Nov 2001 04:26:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta05-svc.ntlworld.com) (62.253.162.45) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2001 04:26:21 -0000 Received: from andrew ([62.255.40.53]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20011102042619.DZXO6072.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@andrew> for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2001 04:26:19 +0000 To: "Lojban@Yahoogroups. Com" Subject: lo with discourse-scope? Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 04:25:36 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 11864 "An/This Englishman walks into an Irish pub. He goes up to the bar and..." Which Englishman? It doesn't matter -- any old Englishman. So not {le glico} then? No. So {lo glico}? Well, no, because its quantifier should bind only what is within its scope, yet throughout the rest of the joke, "he" and "le glico" refer back to the Englishman. So what we need is a way to indicate an existential quantifier that has scope over an entire text? Yes. And how do we do that? I've no idea. I'll ask The List. --And.