From lojbab@lojban.org Fri Nov 23 23:32:31 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 24 Nov 2001 07:32:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 31786 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2001 07:32:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Nov 2001 07:32:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-3.cais.net) (205.252.14.73) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2001 07:32:31 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (ppp5.net-A.cais.net [205.252.61.5]) by stmpy-3.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAO7WTP44070 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 02:32:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011124021910.04e48a80@pop.cais.com> X-Sender: vir1036@pop.cais.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 02:28:19 -0500 To: Subject: RE: [lojban] presentation of lojban In-Reply-To: References: <01112400291904.00949@linux> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 12262 At 09:22 PM 11/23/01 -0500, Craig wrote: > >> it already has a few hundred speakers with a discernable culture. Also > >is that number correct, or are you counting anyone who has ever seen a > lojban > >sentence a speaker ;) > >Last I heard, there were about three hundred list subscribers and about >two hundred copies of the Book sold. I don't know the current figures, but >I do know that I would call myself a speaker (not a fluent one) but I do >not have the Book yet, so the three hundred seems closer to the mark. Both numbers understate the size of the community. There are around 250 subscribers to Lojban List, and probably close to that many who are non-subscribers who have either bought the book, or are subscribed to the paper journal Ju'i Lobypli (even though it has not been published in several years). The latter people are either not active on the net, or cannot handle the traffic volume for Lojban List. We also have many others on the inactive snail mail list - people who inquired but were not interested in pursuing further at this time, or who were waiting for textbook and dictionary publication. There are around 1000 of these, though I would expect only a small percentage of these to become active given the time it has taken for us to get this far. Approximately 365 copies of the reference grammar have been sold. The original break-even point was around 500 sales, though we can pay off last of the printer loan with around 400 or a little more. (Anyone wanna buy a few dozen books or make a big donation?) lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org