From pycyn@aol.com Wed Dec 05 19:12:01 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 6 Dec 2001 03:12:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 55083 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2001 03:11:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m4.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Dec 2001 03:11:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r07.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.103) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Dec 2001 03:11:58 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.a7.180f329e (3924) for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 22:11:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 22:11:51 EST Subject: Re: [lojban] [WWWW] Big update! To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a7.180f329e.29403bf7_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2455001 X-Yahoo-Profile: kaliputra X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 12492 --part1_a7.180f329e.29403bf7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/5/2001 8:19:54 PM Central Standard Time, rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org writes: > No, I'm going to create a compliant website that runs as best as > possible on everything. If something breaks only one browser, > especially if it's Nutscrape, I'll probably leave it that way. > Damn, I hate to be the one to keep saying this -- and to the same person all the time -- but if you really want to make a good impression outside the lunatic fringe, you do a good job on Netscape and IE (it is nice that Bill Gates isn't getting all the blame on this one -- not that he doesn't deserve all he gets and more in the general scheme of things) and assume that all the other, "better" versions can catch up and clean up as well. As usual, Netscape accounts for (did 6 months ago anyhow and it hasn't varied much for a while) just under 47% of all browsers, with IE a point behind, leaving all the rest at a tad over 8%. That is a lot of people who, coming to Lojban, get a less than perfect view of what is going on. Saying that it glows in Voldenuit Browser doesn't impress them much when they see what is in front of them -- except to convince them that this is an elitist fringe group that has nothing to offer them. this is probably true, but is not the impression we try to give (I hope). Bite the bullet and make it look good for hoi polloi; I'm sure the royal eunuchs can manage to do well with a version for the masses (witness how well they write instruction manuals). --part1_a7.180f329e.29403bf7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/5/2001 8:19:54 PM Central Standard Time, rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org writes:


No, I'm going to create a compliant website that runs as best as
possible on everything.  If something breaks only one browser,
especially if it's Nutscrape, I'll probably leave it that way.


Damn, I hate to be the one to keep saying this -- and to the same person all the time -- but if you really want to make a good impression outside the lunatic fringe, you do a good job on Netscape and IE (it is nice that Bill Gates isn't getting all the blame on this one -- not that he doesn't deserve all he gets and more in the general scheme of things) and assume that all the other, "better" versions can catch up and clean up as well.  As usual, Netscape accounts for (did 6 months ago anyhow and it hasn't varied much for a while) just under 47% of all browsers, with IE a point behind, leaving all the rest at a tad over 8%.  That is a lot of people who, coming to Lojban, get a less than perfect view of what is going on.  Saying that it glows in Voldenuit Browser doesn't impress them much when they see what is in front of them -- except to convince them that this is an elitist fringe group that has nothing to offer them.  this is probably true, but is not the impression we try to give (I hope). Bite the bullet and make it look good for hoi polloi; I'm sure the royal eunuchs can manage to do well with a version for the masses (witness how well they write instruction manuals). --part1_a7.180f329e.29403bf7_boundary--