From a.rosta@ntlworld.com Thu Dec 06 15:26:17 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@ntlworld.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 6 Dec 2001 23:26:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 28113 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2001 23:26:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Dec 2001 23:26:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta01-svc.ntlworld.com) (62.253.162.41) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Dec 2001 23:26:16 -0000 Received: from andrew ([62.255.41.4]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20011206232614.NHXO16633.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@andrew> for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 23:26:14 +0000 To: Subject: RE: [lojban] if Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 23:25:35 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <003701c17b2c$3f4be340$e724ca3e@oemcomputer> Importance: Normal From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=77248971 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 12516 Greg: > From: "Rob Speer" > > When discussing actual causation, I believe that either {ganai...gi} or > > a gismu will always work. When discussing hypothetical events, {mu'ei} > > is clearer than anything with {da'i}. > > > but da'i has no other use, so da'i can be made as clear (by my nonce > usage...) I'm not saying that da'i isn't appropriate with conditionals, but it certainly does have other uses, principally to indicate that a sentence is being entertained hypothetically rather than being asserted to be true. --And.