From lojbab@lojban.org Fri Dec 28 18:08:01 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 29 Dec 2001 02:08:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 24728 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2001 02:08:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Dec 2001 02:08:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-3.cais.net) (205.252.14.73) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Dec 2001 02:08:00 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (dynamic215.cl8.cais.net [205.177.20.215]) by stmpy-3.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fBT27xP54073 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 21:07:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011228155211.00b3c100@pop.cais.com> X-Sender: vir1036@pop.cais.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 15:56:01 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: to know or not to know Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: Bob LeChevalier-Logical Language Group X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 12704 In honor of our endless debates about djuno, I offer the following real quote from today's Washington Post as a translation exercise. Maybe in Lojban, someone can figure out what it means %^) "We do have certain knowledge that he is either in Afghanistan, or in some other country, or dead," Rumsfeld said. "And we know of certain knowledge that we don't know which of these happens to be the case." Enjoy. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org