From jay.kominek@colorado.edu Wed Dec 05 13:24:24 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: kominek@ucsub.colorado.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 5 Dec 2001 21:24:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 49639 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2001 21:24:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Dec 2001 21:24:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ucsub.colorado.edu) (128.138.129.12) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2001 21:24:22 -0000 Received: from ucsub.colorado.edu (kominek@ucsub.colorado.edu [128.138.129.12]) by ucsub.colorado.edu (8.11.6/8.11.2/ITS-5.0/student) with ESMTP id fB5LOHC05846 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:24:17 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:24:17 -0700 (MST) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] [WWWW] Goals for http://www.lojban.org/ (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE From: Jay Kominek X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=20706630 X-Yahoo-Profile: jfkominek X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 12487 Rob accidentally sent this straight to me. - Jay Kominek Plus =C3=A7a change, plus c'est la m=C3=AAme chose ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:54:54 -0500 From: Rob Speer To: Jay Kominek Subject: Re: [lojban] [WWWW] Goals for http://www.lojban.org/ On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 12:38:23PM -0700, Jay Kominek wrote: > The new page is much more pleasent to look at. :) I agree. And it does better on the content side than the page Xod and I had. I'm rather impressed by the use of float sections instead of tables - something I never learned. However, a couple things about the page are kinda ugly. First, of course, there's the blue borders around the images - get rid of those with border=3D0 in the tag. And the text runs right up to the edge of each float section, making it hard to read. I see that this can be set in "padding" properties, so those percentages just need to be higher. It rather looks like the right sidebar begins higher than the left one, giving a rather lopsided appearance. "You email" should of course be "Your email", if not "Your email address". I think the text in the margins could afford to be smaller. Right now the left column is about twice as long as everything else. The purpose of using a sans-serif font in our version was that sans-serif is easy to read at small sizes. I don't even think it would be too much of a problem to use sans-serif in the sidebars and serif in the main column, if you so prefer. The style sheet you have should make that change very easy to make. It doesn't have to be as small as xod's version. He never uploaded the version where I made the sidebar text bigger. Next to the heading, the dates are the most prominent thing on the page. That's just a bit weird now, but it could become quite a problem if activity slows down on the site and the second thing a visitor sees is a really old date. These could afford to be a couple of header sizes smaller. On my screen, for example, "26 November 2001" appears on 3 lines. The bullets are all on the outside of the text. That's a neat trick, and I wish I had known how to do that on my version. But since your version has extra space between bullet points anyway, it is not necessary for the bullets to stick out to the side, and you could reclaim some space in the sidebar by having the text wrap below the bullets. --=20 la rab.spir noi sarji zo gumri