From araizen@newmail.net Wed Jan 30 16:26:44 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: araizen@newmail.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 31 Jan 2002 00:26:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 53484 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2002 00:26:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2002 00:26:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO enigma.barak.net.il) (212.150.48.99) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 2002 00:26:43 -0000 Received: from out.newmail.net ([10.10.11.11]) by enigma.barak.net.il (InterMail vK.4.03.00.00 201-232-121 license 5444ddd44659357c6c93343e0ce38507) with SMTP id <20020131002747.EAER1829.enigma@out.newmail.net> for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 02:27:47 +0200 Received: from default ([62.0.182.12]) by out.newmail.net ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 02:27:50 +0200 Message-ID: <06ca01c1a9ee$0d6ad3e0$90b4003e@default> To: "Lojban List" References: Subject: Re: UI for 'possible' (was: Re: [lojban] Bible translation stylequestion) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 02:27:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 From: "Adam Raizen" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3063669 X-Yahoo-Profile: araizen X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 13114 la xod. cusku di'e > > I have used 'la'acu'i' a couple of times, I think. If the only > > difference between 'ju'o' and 'la'a' is the degree of certainty, then > > the mid-points would be the same, I guess. > > > > I interpret la'a to mean (subjective) statistical probability, and ju'o > for the strength of my conviction, hence they are orthogonal. I'd give > examples but I forget the scales of la'a. I can see what the distinction might be, but I wonder if there is one in practice. Is there any sentence 'broda' such that it would be reasonable for someone to say '.i la'a broda .i ku'i ju'onaicai broda' Anything like 'ju'ocu'i' instead of 'cumki' is assuming that 'cumki' really does indicate only a middle value on a scale of certainty/probability. A different meaning of 'cumki' doesn't limit the degree of certainty/probability. If something is certain, it's also possible. mu'o mi'e .adam.