From gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch Sun Jan 20 05:11:52 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 20 Jan 2002 13:11:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 37785 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2002 13:11:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jan 2002 13:11:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta13n.bluewin.ch) (195.186.1.206) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 2002 13:11:51 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (62.202.42.143) by mta13n.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 6.0.039) id 3C4A82FB00009AAD for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 14:11:50 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01c1a1b3$a1ceff40$8f2aca3e@oemcomputer> To: Subject: standard Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 13:55:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "G. Dyke" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=81437350 X-Yahoo-Profile: gregvdyke X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 12993 I'm not sure what the import of this post is, but here goes : In German, people do not say "I am cold" or "I am well", with "I" in the nominative (subject), but "mir ist kalt/gut", in the dative. This is because lojban is not the first language to include standards ; we would probably say {xamgu mi} and {lenku tu'a mi). Comments? Greg -- http://www.myepfl.ch/gregory.dyke .i lo'e to'e makcu cu djica lenu tolcumla morsi kei lo telda'a .i lo'e je'a makcu cu go'i to'ebo le se go'i