From jcowan@reutershealth.com Mon Jan 14 15:38:37 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 14 Jan 2002 23:38:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 56375 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2002 23:38:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Jan 2002 23:38:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (204.243.9.36) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jan 2002 23:38:36 -0000 Received: from reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[10.65.117.21]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA08562; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:39:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C436BF7.4070606@reutershealth.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:38:31 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.6) Gecko/20011120 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jorge Llambias Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] po'u considered harmful References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=8122456 X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 12941 Jorge Llambias wrote: > la djan cusku di'e > > >>mi me le ci nolraitru = I am Caspar, Melchior, or Balthazar. >>mi du le ci nolraitru = We are Caspar, Melchior, and Balthazar. >> > > The first is true and the second false, right? > > Whatever {ko'a} refers to, {ko'a du le ci broda} has to be > false (unless you're Catholic), because if something is equal > to each of three broda, then each of the three is equal > to the others, but then it is one thing, not three! No. When the referents are plural, "du" distributes one-for-one: if I say that le mreni du le barda that means that the men (that I have in mind) are the same as the big ones (that I have in mind). -- Not to perambulate || John Cowan the corridors || http://www.reutershealth.com during the hours of repose || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan in the boots of ascension. \\ Sign in Austrian ski-resort hotel