From araizen@newmail.net Thu Feb 21 16:24:32 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: araizen@newmail.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_2); 22 Feb 2002 00:24:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 87591 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2002 00:20:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m10.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Feb 2002 00:20:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mxout2.netvision.net.il) (194.90.9.21) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2002 00:20:45 -0000 Received: from default ([62.0.180.90]) by mxout2.netvision.net.il (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built Sep 5 2001)) with SMTP id <0GRW0063TRMJ58@mxout2.netvision.net.il> for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 02:20:45 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 02:22:09 +0200 Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: [jboske] RE: Anything but tautologies To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-id: <017501c1bb37$0677e280$5ab4003e@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <90.21a12c96.29a6c2d2@aol.com> From: Adam Raizen X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3063669 X-Yahoo-Profile: araizen X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 13392 la pycyn. cusku di'e > > > Then we're missing an important predicate: "x1 maps value x2 to > > > value x3". > > > > That is 'mapti' I think. ('x1 is mapped to x2 by rule/function x3') Of > > course, mapti doesn't claim that the mapping is a function, but if > > that is important then 'fancu mapti' should work. > > > > mapti mat fit 'match' x1 fits/matches/suits/is > compatible/appropriate/corresponds to/with x2 in property/aspect x3 7j 47 > (cf. satci, tugni, sarxe, drani, tarmi, ckini, mintu) > > Not quite exactly -- the tanru suggested is a possibility however. And the > others to be compared, especially {sarxe}, and {ckini} might be useful as > well. Since we've been interpreting properties as functions, I think it works well. 'la barbras mapti la dabias le ka ce'u mamta makau.' What would you put in the third place that doesn't work? I suppose that the place structure of at least 'sarxe' and 'ckini' look equally tempting, but I think 'mapti' looks best. (Though this then brings up the question, what is the difference between the three.) mu'o mi'e .adam.