From gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch Mon Feb 11 23:10:00 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_2); 12 Feb 2002 07:10:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 35927 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2002 07:10:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m10.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Feb 2002 07:10:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta1n.bluewin.ch) (195.186.1.210) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Feb 2002 07:10:00 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (213.3.45.121) by mta1n.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 6.0.040) id 3C5F86FA0024BA69 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:09:58 +0100 Message-ID: <004c01c1b393$d1529820$792d03d5@oemcomputer> To: "jboste" Subject: Re: [lojban] tautologies Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 06:59:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "G. Dyke" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=81437350 X-Yahoo-Profile: gregvdyke X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 13233 > #How do you say in Lojban "I buy it whatever it costs"? > mi se vecnu ju ni ve vecnu hmm, I suppose you'll reply that there is no truth function in _ni_, how about _su'u_? I definitely feel that the {mi se vecnu ju} part is right. But maybe that's what {zi'o} really means: the truth value of this sentence does not depend on what might fill this place. vecnu mi ta zi'o I wish I'd followed this thread from the beginning... Greg