From phma@webjockey.net Thu Feb 14 08:44:20 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_2); 14 Feb 2002 16:44:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 93554 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2002 16:44:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Feb 2002 16:44:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 2002 16:44:19 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id 39E9B3C478; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:44:16 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Subject: lo'e nanmu cu cliva lo'e patfu Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:44:13 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] X-Spamtrap: fesmri@ixazon.dynip.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0202141144131B.16980@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com From: Pierre Abbat X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 13288 I wrote the following for Genesis 2:24: to .iseki'ubo lo'e nanmu cu cliva lo'e patfu .e lo'e mamta gi'e snipa lo'e speni .ibo le remei cu binxo pa rectu toi Adam commented: @c I think that 'lo'e' should be avoided as it's not clear what it means. @c At any rate the most canonical meaning doesn't work here. ('the typical @c man will leave the typical father?') -- Adam I think {lo'e nanmu} is correct, as men typically get married, and {lo} would claim only that at least one man gets married, whereas {le} would mean that the author has in mind someone who gets married. {lo'e patfu} I'm less sure of, as it's really lo patfu be lo'e nanmu, and I'm not sure whether {le remei} should be {le'e remei} (since it's not talking about the typical pair of anything, but only the typical man-woman pair) or {lo'e remei}. And is {rectu} the right word here? phma