From pycyn@aol.com Sat Mar 02 06:29:14 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 2 Mar 2002 14:29:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 42503 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2002 14:29:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Mar 2002 14:29:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r02.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.98) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2002 14:29:13 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id r.107.dcf8dd3 (4585) for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2002 09:29:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <107.dcf8dd3.29b23bb2@aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 09:29:06 EST Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: [jboske] Quantifiers, Existential Import, and all that stuff To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_107.dcf8dd3.29b23bb2_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2455001 X-Yahoo-Profile: kaliputra X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 13476 --part1_107.dcf8dd3.29b23bb2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/1/2002 8:00:49 PM Central Standard Time, jjllambias@hotmail.com writes: > , the {lo broda}, which is {lo ro broda} could work > >sometimes even if there were no brodas (I forget what that was supposed to > >help with or be aproblem for). > > I just want to point out that I never said that. {lo broda} is > {su'o lo ro broda} and of course it has existential import, from > {su'o}, not from {ro}. > > What I said is that every set has ro members, and this includes > the empty set if ro can be zero. > Sorry I misremembered the exact way you put it; the problem with your claim remains, however. --part1_107.dcf8dd3.29b23bb2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/1/2002 8:00:49 PM Central Standard Time, jjllambias@hotmail.com writes:


, the {lo broda}, which is {lo ro broda} could work
>sometimes even if there were no brodas (I forget what that was supposed to
>help with or be aproblem for).

I just want to point out that I never said that. {lo broda} is
{su'o lo ro broda} and of course it has existential import, from
{su'o}, not from {ro}.

What I said is that every set has ro members, and this includes
the empty set if ro can be zero.


Sorry I misremembered the exact way you put it; the problem with your claim remains, however. --part1_107.dcf8dd3.29b23bb2_boundary--