From pycyn@aol.com Sat Mar 09 09:09:41 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 9 Mar 2002 17:09:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 85330 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2002 17:09:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Mar 2002 17:09:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r09.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.105) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Mar 2002 17:09:41 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id r.7f.22a199b2 (18711) for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 12:09:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <7f.22a199b2.29bb9bcb@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 12:09:31 EST Subject: Re: Quantifiers, Esistential Import, etc. To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_7f.22a199b2.29bb9bcb_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2455001 X-Yahoo-Profile: kaliputra X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 13580 --part1_7f.22a199b2.29bb9bcb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit With due thanks for examples -- positive and negative -- to Llamban and xorxes. Type: Normal Lojban : English A+ : ro broda cu brode: Every S is P A- : ro da poi broda cu brode : Any S is P E+: no broda cu brode: None of the S is P E- : no da poi broda cu brode: No S is P I+ : lo broda cu brode: Some S is P I- : da poi broda cu brode: Some S -- if there are any -- is P O+ : lo broda cu naku brode: Some S is not P/ Not all S is P O- : da poi broda cu naku brode: Not every S is P/ Some S -- if there are any -- is P Type: Revealing + form: revealing - form [redundant] A+: ro broda cu brode [ije lo'i broda cu se su'omei] : da poi broda cu brode ije de broda A-: ro broda cu brode ija lo'i broda cu se nomei : [de broda inaja] ro da zo'u ganai da broda gi da brode E+ : no broda cu brode [ije lo'i broda cu se su'omei] : no da poi broda cu brode ije de broda E- : no broda cu brode ija lo'i broda cu se nomei: [da broda inaja] no da zo'u ge da broda gi da brode I+ : lo broda cu brode [ije lo'i broda cu se su'omei] : da poi broda cu brode ije de broda I- : lo broda cu brode ija lo'i broda cu se nomei: de broda inaja da zo'u ge da broda gi da brode O+: lo broda cu naku brode [ije lo'i broda cu se su'omei] : da poi broda cu brode ije de broda O- : lo broda cu naku brode ija lo'i broda cu se su'omei : de broda inaja da zo'u ge da broda ginai da brode. I worry a bit anbout all those sets that are aspects of Finnish culture. --part1_7f.22a199b2.29bb9bcb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit With due thanks for examples -- positive and negative -- to Llamban and xorxes.
Type: Normal Lojban : English
A+ : ro broda cu brode: Every S is P
A- : ro da poi broda cu brode : Any S is P
E+: no broda cu brode: None of the S is P
E- : no da poi broda cu brode: No S is P
I+ : lo broda cu brode: Some S is P
I- : da poi broda cu brode: Some S -- if there are any -- is P
O+ : lo broda cu naku brode: Some S is not P/ Not all S is P
O- : da poi broda cu naku brode: Not every S is P/ Some S -- if there are any -- is P

Type: Revealing + form: revealing - form  [redundant]
A+: ro broda cu brode [ije lo'i broda cu se su'omei] : da poi broda cu brode ije de broda
A-: ro broda cu brode ija lo'i broda cu se nomei : [de broda inaja] ro da zo'u ganai da broda gi da brode
E+ : no broda cu brode [ije lo'i broda cu se su'omei] : no da poi broda cu brode ije de broda
E- : no broda cu brode ija lo'i broda cu se nomei: [da broda inaja] no da zo'u ge da broda gi da brode
I+ : lo broda cu brode [ije lo'i broda cu se su'omei] :  da poi broda cu brode ije de broda
I- :  lo broda cu brode ija lo'i broda cu se nomei:  de broda inaja da zo'u ge da broda gi da brode
O+: lo broda cu naku brode [ije lo'i broda cu se su'omei] : da poi broda cu brode ije de broda
O- : lo broda cu naku brode ija lo'i broda cu se su'omei : de broda inaja da zo'u ge da broda ginai da brode.

I worry a bit anbout all those sets that are aspects of Finnish culture.

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