From xod@sixgirls.org Thu Mar 14 15:33:07 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@reva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 14 Mar 2002 23:33:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 50438 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2002 23:33:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m11.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Mar 2002 23:33:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reva.sixgirls.org) (216.27.131.50) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Mar 2002 23:33:05 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reva.sixgirls.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2ENX2W25142 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:33:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:32:58 -0500 (EST) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [lojban] lojban.org transfer, reprise. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1138703 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 13742 On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Craig wrote: > >> >Also, at that point we *could* move the mailing lists off of yahoo, and > >> >hence get rid of the advertising. But I have a feeling people don't > >> >want to do that, due to the public exposure (which I still say is > >> >nebulous, at best). > >> > >> There's also some (mistaken, IMVHO) feeling that it is easier to use > yahoo. > >> If this were demonstrably true, I would support the continued use of > yahoo > >> just so as not to turn off non-geeks any more than we already do. > > >I wasn't aware there were politically correct alternatives that support > >the same feature set as does Yahoo groups. > > A. What would make an alternative politically incorrect? There is a school of thought that frowns upon anything that's commercial or corporate. Open Source is Good, Starbucks is Bad. You know what I'm talking about. > B. When was the last time this group used a poll, or images, or any other > feature other than mailing? There are files in the section, and we have a huge bank of archives that are nicely searchable. Of course, all this could be recreated with PHP, perl, and ignored bug reports rotting on ignored sourceforge forums, but Lojban people are notorious for complaining how they have no time for anything, so why not avail our lazy selves of these features that are already there? And if we have time to burn then spend it creating new things rather than redoing what's already been done, and then inconveniencing all of us to switch over to a solution that's identical at best. On the other hand, an alternative would almost surely include a sane reply policy for mailing list responses. -- Somewhere in America there is an idiot whining about the fact that he has to learn to cursor around the menu system on his VCR, while an 8 year old is installing FreeBSD in his free time.