From cowan@ccil.org Wed Mar 06 09:34:03 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 6 Mar 2002 17:34:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 85687 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2002 17:34:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m11.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Mar 2002 17:34:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.100) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Mar 2002 17:34:01 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16ifIf-0002pN-00; Wed, 06 Mar 2002 12:34:01 -0500 Subject: Re: sets, masses, &c. (was: RE: [lojban] Re: [jboske] RE: Anything but tautol... In-Reply-To: from And Rosta at "Mar 6, 2002 03:06:43 pm" To: And Rosta Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:34:01 -0500 (EST) Cc: jjllambias , lojban X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=212516 X-Yahoo-Profile: johnwcowan X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 13538 And Rosta scripsit: > No, but you could say "a bowl full of shirt" if the bowl is > full of shirts that have lost their shirtal integrity. The English word for this is "shirting". Typically shirting becomes shirts at some point, but in principle shirts can be dismantled either physically or conceptually into shirting. Similarly, the mass term for pants is "panting". -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org To say that Bilbo's breath was taken away is no description at all. There are no words left to express his staggerment, since Men changed the language that they learned of elves in the days when all the world was wonderful. --_The Hobbit_