From jcowan@reutershealth.com Thu Apr 04 13:13:55 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 4 Apr 2002 21:13:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 37783 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2002 21:13:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Apr 2002 21:13:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (204.243.9.36) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2002 21:13:45 -0000 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[10.65.117.21]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA09468; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 16:13:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200204042113.QAA09468@mail.reutershealth.com> Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 4 Apr 2002 16:11:56 -0500 Subject: Re: [lojban] ce'u once again To: opoudjis@optushome.com.au (Nick Nicholas) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 16:11:56 -0500 (EST) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: from "Nick Nicholas" at Mar 30, 2002 06:53:47 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=8122456 X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 13918 Nick Nicholas scripsit: > In particular, a reviewer suggested to me that I can't claim a > property applying to a specific individual is a fact, with the > example "Fred's illness is more debilitating than George's". , I think the problem is that "Fred's illness" is ambiguous between "the kind of illness Fred has" and "the particular instance of illness that Fred has". Cancer is undoubtedly more debilitating than diarrhea, but if Fred's cancer is in remission it may be less debilitating than George's full-blast travelers' trots. The "instance of" is an event, but the "kind of" is probably not an event. -- John Cowan http://www.reutershealth.com I amar prestar aen, han mathon ne nen, http://www.ccil.org/~cowan han mathon ne chae, a han noston ne 'wilith. --Galadriel, _LOTR:FOTR_