From ragnarok@pobox.com Tue Apr 16 03:28:34 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: raganok@intrex.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 16 Apr 2002 10:28:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 15042 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2002 10:28:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Apr 2002 10:28:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO intrex.net) (209.42.192.250) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2002 10:28:34 -0000 Received: from Craig [209.42.200.90] by intrex.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id ACF724140152; Tue, 16 Apr 2002 06:29:11 -0400 To: Subject: RE: [lojban] x2 of 'le' Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 06:28:32 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-eGroups-From: "Craig" From: "Craig" Reply-To: X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=48763382 X-Yahoo-Profile: kreig_daniyl X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 14022 >On Tuesday 16 April 2002 02:33, Robin Turner wrote: >> On Monday 15 April 2002 14:11, Ted Reed wrote: >> > On Sunday 14 April 2002 21:53, Ted Reed wrote: >> > > I'm not sure if something like this already exists, but I got the >> > > idea and decided to send it in. >> > > >> > > If I've learned it correctly, 'le' basically means "that/those >> > > which is/are described as ..." What it doesn't specify is who >> > > describes it as that. Take this example: >> >> I think "le" is more like "that which I call" - by definiton it is >> the speaker doing the calling, so cannot be applied to anyone else >I thought 'la' was 'that which I call'? la = that which is named... le = that which, to identify it, I call... lo = that which is...