From b.gohla@gmx.de Sat Apr 13 13:02:07 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: b.gohla@gmx.de X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 13 Apr 2002 20:02:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 6323 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2002 20:02:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Apr 2002 20:02:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.gmx.net) (213.165.64.20) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Apr 2002 20:02:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 14835 invoked by uid 0); 13 Apr 2002 20:02:03 -0000 Received: from a49ba.pppool.de (HELO linux) (213.6.73.186) by mail.gmx.net (mp011-rz3) with SMTP; 13 Apr 2002 20:02:03 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: xirli'u selsanga Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 21:03:13 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02041321031302.01220@linux> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?utf-8?q?Bj=C3=B6rn=20Gohla?= Reply-To: b.gohla@gmx.de X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=36703491 X-Yahoo-Profile: badbirdde X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 13987 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 13 April 2002 19:02, And Rosta wrote: > Robin: > > > **I haven't listened to this**, but I find it surprising if Bjoern is > > > a German speaker, since it would imply that he is speaking Lojban > > > without a German accent but with an English accent. I may well be > > > wrong, but I suspect that Robin's perceptions of the e/y boundary are > > > tainted by English. > > > > Actually, I have the ability to recognize phonemes from any language; > > I'm a mutant in that regard. Also, his pronounciation of e is *much* > > different internal to words. > > > > Regardless, I'd very much like you to listen to it and comment, because > > I very much think you're wrong. 8) Also, a trailing schwa is very > > germanic from what german I've heard. > > I have listened to it now, & very beautifully read it is too! i did not read it off, but performed it by heart.=20 > But you were quite correct about the excess of schwas. Some of > the /ir/ are improperly rendered too. which ones? i listened to it several times but i could not guess which /ir/= =20 could be wrong.=20 > Now, what gear do I need to record myself? (No unix bollocks, I'm a win98 > neanderthal.) * a microphone, * a soundcard, * recording program, a very simple one comes with windows afaik * an mpeg encoder, to reduce the resulting file to an acceptable size.=20 unfortunately i am not too familiar with windows, much less mpeg encoding o= n=20 windows but there is a windows version of bladeenc at:=20 http://bladeenc.mp3.no - --=20 Article I from the Universal Declaration of Human Rights All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood. pub 1024D/834F4976 2001-01-07 Bj=C3=B6rn Gohla (Wissenschaftler, Weltb=C3= =BCrger)=20 Key fingerprint =3D 9FF4 FEDA CCDF DA0E 14D5 8129 6C14 3C39 834F 4976 sub 1024g/29571FE2 2001-01-07 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8uID2bBQ8OYNPSXYRAtFIAJ9z6kEg3m3ckndXJmK4Nw25XuFNVQCfbeyb yOHBYwl4xWHJ+L0FnkIpAC4=3D =3D3O13 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----