From rizen@ispwest.com Mon Apr 15 03:12:49 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: rizen@ispwest.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_1); 15 Apr 2002 10:12:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 72991 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2002 10:12:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Apr 2002 10:12:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ispwestemail.aceweb.net) (216.52.245.18) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Apr 2002 10:12:44 -0000 Received: from there (unverified [66.2.47.88]) by ispwestemail.aceweb.net (Vircom SMTPRS 1.2.222) with SMTP id for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2002 03:09:08 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: x2 of 'le' Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:53:01 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Ted Reed X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=104181342 X-Yahoo-Profile: xrizen X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 14006 I'm not sure if something like this already exists, but I got the idea and decided to send it in. If I've learned it correctly, 'le' basically means "that/those which is/are described as ..." What it doesn't specify is who describes it as that. Take this example: ko'a's cousin (goi ko'e) met a girl (goi ko'i) that reminds ko'e of ko'a. Ko'e tells ko'a about ko'i, and says that ko'a should meet ko'i. Part of the information imparted to ko'a by ko'e is that ko'i speaks lojban, so when ko'a meets ko'i, ko'a wants to be cute and say in lojban: "So you're the one my cousin described as the hot redhead." So is there any way of specifying the source of a description already, or should we look into making an x2 to 'le'? -- rizen