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la pier cusku di'e

>I just found the following on news.admin.net-abuse.email:
>
>Actually a true "confirmed opt-in" can be sold but not bought, because
>while is is still in the posession of the builder of the list, it remains
>a confirmed opt-in list. At the exact moment of the transfer of ownership
>of the list, its nature changes from confirmed opt-in to opt-out.
>
>So I try to translate:
>
>ba'unai lo ca'a ba'e cpatu'i cmicu'a termriste ka'e se vecnu gi'enai ka'e 
>se
>tervecnu .iseni'ibo ca le nu le zbasu be le liste ca'o ponse ri kei ri ca'o
>cpatu'i cmicu'a termriste .iku'i ca le mu'e le liste cu cenba le ka se 
>ponse
>kei le cpatu'i cmicu'a termriste cu binxo lo livycu'a termriste
>
>But {ka'e se vecnu gi'enai ka'e se tervecnu} makes no sense. Can anyone fix
>it?

It doesn't make that much sense in English, either, so the
translation is accurate in that respect, but you can always
say {ka'e se tervecnu zi'o gi'enai ka'e se vecnu zi'o}.

But generics should not be translated as {lo}. What you
wrote says that there is at least one opt-in list that can
be sold but not bought, it doesn't say that all opt-in
lists are such, nor that generically opt-in lists are such.
If you don't like {lo'e} for this you should use {ro}.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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