From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Sun May 05 12:57:54 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 5 May 2002 19:57:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 93595 invoked from network); 5 May 2002 19:57:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 May 2002 19:57:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (66.92.190.121) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 May 2002 19:57:53 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 174S9T-0002Vz-00 for ; Sun, 05 May 2002 12:58:35 -0700 Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 12:58:35 -0700 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: bases [was: Re: [lojban] Re:HEX advert... (Don't know what it was) Message-ID: <20020505195835.GC9487@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i From: Robin Lee Powell X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=66827819 X-Yahoo-Profile: robinleepowell X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 14220 On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 07:53:36PM +0100, And Rosta wrote: > > From: John Cowan [mailto:cowan@ccil.org] > > Sent: 11 November 2001 17:43 > > > > And Rosta scripsit: > > > > > And, similarly, just because Lojban has noncompositional words for > > > zero through to 15 does not mean Lojban by default uses base 16. > > > > Note that dau does not represent the *number* 10, but the *digit* > > 10; a fine distinction, but important. > > What is the distinction? li pano in base 10 == the number 10 (in base 10). lu pano li'u in base 10 == the digits '1' and '0'. li dau in base 10 == nothing/meaningless. li dau in base 11+ == the number 10 zo dau in base 11+ == the digit '10'. Not sure I can explain it better. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. le datni cu djica le nu zifre .iku'i .oi le so'e datni cu to'e te pilno je xlali -- RLP http://www.lojban.org/