From eks2@york.ac.uk Fri Jun 14 06:31:17 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: eks2@york.ac.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 14 Jun 2002 13:31:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 82651 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2002 13:31:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Jun 2002 13:31:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.76) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jun 2002 13:31:16 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.174] by n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jun 2002 13:31:16 -0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:31:13 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Correct terminator(s)? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1475 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "sklyanin" X-Originating-IP: 144.32.128.133 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=71790832 X-Yahoo-Profile: sklyanin X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 14388 coi filip. do cusku di'e > Hi, I have a question. > [...] > but if I want to say it as "I described my reading of the book to > you", then the "obvious" translation, > > mi skicu lenu mi tcidu le cukta do > > is incorrect because then the "do" is attached to the "tcidu" and not > to the "skicu", as desired (and I guess the result means something > like "I described how I read from the book which is written on you"). > So I need at least one terminator in there somewhere. However, I'm > not sure which ones. My first attempt was "ku", but > > mi skicu lenu mi tcidu le cukta ku do > > only terminates "le cukta" as argument to "tcidu" and still attaches > "do" to "tcidu". However, all of the following appear to work (at > least according to jbofi'e): > > mi skicu lenu mi tcidu le cukta ku ku do > .i mi skicu lenu mi tcidu le cukta kei do > .i mi skicu lenu mi tcidu le cukta kei ku do > .i mi skicu lenu mi tcidu le cukta ku kei do > > I presume they can't all be correct -- or can they? If they are, is > there a difference? Which would be the preferred way? If none is > correct, what would be the correct way to say it? > Grammatically they all are correct - they do exactly the same job, so the question is merely of "good style". For a computer all the variants are the same. For a human being though the variant mi skicu lenu mi tcidu le cukta kei do seems to be the most digestible. co'o mi'e .evgenis.