From sentto-44114-14515-1024663922-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Thu Jun 20 22:53:55 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 20 Jun 2002 22:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [66.218.66.65] (helo=n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17LHMo-0006Zk-00 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2002 22:53:54 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-14515-1024663922-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.193] by n10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2002 12:52:02 -0000 X-Sender: Philip.Newton@datenrevision.de X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_3_2); 21 Jun 2002 12:52:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 48965 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2002 12:52:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Jun 2002 12:52:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailgw5.gedas.de) (139.1.44.13) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jun 2002 12:52:01 -0000 Received: from mailgw5.gedas.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw5.gedas.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05138 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 14:51:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from blnsem05.de.gedas.vwg (blnsem05.gedas.de [139.1.84.49]) by mailgw5.gedas.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05134 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 14:51:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by blnsem05.de.gedas.vwg with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 21 Jun 2002 14:51:59 +0200 Message-ID: To: "'lojban@yahoogroups.com'" X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) From: "Newton, Philip" X-Yahoo-Profile: elder_newton MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 14:51:58 +0200 Subject: [lojban] Re: How to make best use of jbofi'e? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 43 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: Philip.Newton@datenrevision.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list And Rosta wrote: > I'd like to ask if there are any clever ways of using it in a > Windows invironment, or whether one has to create a text file > and run jbofi'e on it -- which is something one probably wouldn't > bother to do for, say, an email message with one sentence of > Lojban in it. xod wrote: > Don't bother installing anything if you just want to play around > and watch it go. > > http://www.epita.fr/~poss_r/lojban/jboski.html Robin Lee Powell wrote: > Failing that, I would assume, having never tried it, that it probably > takes standard input on windows, i.e. that you run it from the command > prompt, enter the lojban text, and hit (probably) ctrl-D. Yes (Ctrl-Z under DOS, but the idea is the same). It can also take input from a filename that you pass on the command line. As xod pointed out, there's an online interactive version; if you have a browser open to it, you could simply paste the sentence from the email into the fish and "ko danre". (This is what I do all the time.) The command-line version is a bit stark to use, but it should only be a Small Matter of Programming to rig up something that, say, lives in the system tray and will translate text you select with the mouse by passing it to jbofi'e and capturing the output. Or a graphical frontend with an input and output window similar to the on-line version (perhaps even with an HTML renderer so you see the colorised version rather than the plain-text output). But someone'd have to do that first. mu'omi'e filip. [email copies appreciated] -- Philip Newton All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/