From sentto-44114-14811-1027876557-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sun Jul 28 10:16:29 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 28 Jul 2002 10:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.83]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17Yree-0000e8-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 10:16:28 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-14811-1027876557-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.94] by n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jul 2002 17:15:57 -0000 X-Sender: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 28 Jul 2002 17:15:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 91629 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2002 17:15:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Jul 2002 17:15:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta3n.bluewin.ch) (195.186.1.212) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 2002 17:15:56 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (62.202.163.204) by mta3n.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 6.5.026) id 3D3D0B8D000A9EB4 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:15:55 +0200 Message-ID: <005f01c2365a$8e7230c0$b8a103d5@oemcomputer> To: "jboste" References: <9F74028A-A242-11D6-9A87-000393629ED4@uic.edu> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "G. Dyke" X-Yahoo-Profile: gregvdyke MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:16:47 +0200 Subject: Re: [lojban] senva Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 341 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list zo gordyn cu cmene le mi patfu .i zo greg cmene mi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Belknap" To: "G. Dyke" Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] senva > Gordon- > > I would translate this particular sense of the English verb "dreams" > with the lojban gismu . However, could be correct given a > context in which the reference is clearly to reverie rather than desire. > > -Steven > > On Sunday, July 28, 2002, at 07:59 AM, G. Dyke wrote: > > > Well, saying "he dreams of winning the olympic games" is not quite the > > same > > as saying "he often dreams that a huge spider is under his bed" > > > > Greg > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert LeChevalier" > > To: "jboste" > > Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 2:49 PM > > Subject: Re: [lojban] senva > > > > > >> At 07:56 AM 7/28/02 +0200, G. Dyke wrote: > >>> senva sev sne dream 'reverie' x1 dreams > >>> about/that x2 (fact/idea/event/state); x2 is a dream/reverie of x1 > >>> > >>> Does this include both waking, conscious dreams, or only subconscious, > >>> sleeping dreams? > >> > >> I see no reason why it shouldn't. > >> > >> > >> lojbab lojbab@lojban.org > >> Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. > >> 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA > >> 703-385-0273 > >> Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: > >> http://www.lojban.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com > >> > >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >> > >> > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/7dY7FD/R_ZEAA/Ey.GAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/