From sentto-44114-14553-1025565290-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Mon Jul 01 16:20:33 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 01 Jul 2002 16:20:33 z (PDT) Received: from n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.70]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17PATA-0005ma-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2002 16:20:32 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-14553-1025565290-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.196] by n15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jul 2002 23:19:57 -0000 X-Sender: rob@twcny.rr.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 1 Jul 2002 23:14:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 28266 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2002 23:14:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Jul 2002 23:14:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout6.nyroc.rr.com) (24.92.226.125) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jul 2002 23:14:49 -0000 Received: from mail1.twcny.rr.com (mail1-1.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.139]) by mailout6.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.6/RoadRunner 1.20) with ESMTP id g61NElp10665 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:14:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from riff ([24.92.246.4]) by mail1.twcny.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:14:43 -0400 Received: from rob by riff with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17PANX-0002D9-00 for ; Mon, 01 Jul 2002 19:14:43 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <20020701231443.GA8496@twcny.rr.com> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com References: <20020701215033.GA8341@twcny.rr.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com From: Rob Speer X-Yahoo-Profile: squeekybobo MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 19:14:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [lojban] Just a phrase Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 83 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rob@twcny.rr.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 01:58:15AM +0400, Cyril Slobin wrote: > > On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Rob Speer wrote: > > > {ka'enai} is in the top 20 most frequently used compounds, used > > as frequently as {lemi}. Usage has already decided that {ka'enai} should > > be valid. > > {ka'enai} has no advantages over {na ka'e}. I'm not a strong baseliner, > but I opine baseline should be broken only when it brings some new > expressive power to the language. {ka'enai} is "properly" expressed as {na'e ka'e}. Of course {na ka'e} is very close in meaning, but if you use it in a complex sentence you get the confusion that comes with {na}. And {na'eka'e} is just grating on the ears... -- mu'o mi'e rab.spir To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/