From sentto-44114-14945-1028725746-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Wed Aug 07 06:09:39 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 07 Aug 2002 06:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n3.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.86]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17cQZF-00057K-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Wed, 07 Aug 2002 06:09:37 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-14945-1028725746-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.192] by n3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2002 13:09:06 -0000 X-Sender: Philip.Newton@datenrevision.de X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 7 Aug 2002 13:09:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 38937 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 13:09:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Aug 2002 13:09:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO spree.gedas.de) (139.1.44.12) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 13:09:05 -0000 Received: from spree.gedas.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spree.gedas.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05037 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 15:09:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from blnsem05.de.gedas.vwg (blnsem05.gedas.de [139.1.84.49]) by spree.gedas.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05033 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 15:09:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by blnsem05.de.gedas.vwg with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3W819QZ0>; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 15:09:03 +0200 Message-ID: To: "'lojban@yahoogroups.com'" X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) From: "Newton, Philip" X-Yahoo-Profile: elder_newton MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 15:08:59 +0200 Subject: [lojban] climb / cpare Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 475 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: Philip.Newton@datenrevision.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Can {cpare} be used in "I climbed the mountain"? The definition says that x2 is the surface, which would presumably be the rock face rather than the mountain itself. I'm wondering whether I can put the German word "erklimmen" in the translation, which corresponds roughly to "to climb something, to scale something" but can't be "climb" without an object. So I wonder whether "da cpare de" can be "X erklimmt Y" or not. mi cpare le cmana ? mu'omi'e filip. [email copies appreciated, since I read the digest] {ko fukpi mrilu .i'o fi mi ki'u le du'u mi te mrilu loi notseljmaji} -- Philip Newton All opinions are my own, not my employer's. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/it_ffB/R_ZEAA/Ey.GAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/