Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_7_4); 19 Aug 2002 21:09:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 80883 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2002 21:09:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Aug 2002 21:09:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d08.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.40) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 2002 21:09:37 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id r.14d.12a0a8b6 (18707) for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:09:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <14d.12a0a8b6.2a92b875@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:09:09 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] .uanai ne'i le velcli To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_14d.12a0a8b6.2a92b875_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10509 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2455001 X-Yahoo-Profile: kaliputra X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 15141 Content-Length: 1878 Lines: 36 --part1_14d.12a0a8b6.2a92b875_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/19/2002 10:24:48 AM Central Daylight Time, xod@thestonecutters.net writes: > If I recall properly, the result of a long argument on this list is that > the distinction between pure emotion indicators and propositional attitude > indicators is more of a suggestion, or a set of defaults, rather than a > guaranteed policy. > As classes, yes, but individual cases are pretty clearly decided, I think. And, if they are, {ei} seems a pretty clear case of a non-truth functional complex -- imposing or acknowledging an obligation, and thus true or false -- if at all -- independently of the truth of the bridi attached. --part1_14d.12a0a8b6.2a92b875_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/19/2002 10:24:48 AM Central Daylight Time, xod@thestonecutters.net writes:


If I recall properly, the result of a long argument on this list is that
the distinction between pure emotion indicators and propositional attitude
indicators is more of a suggestion, or a set of defaults, rather than a
guaranteed policy.


As classes, yes, but individual cases are pretty clearly decided, I think.  And, if they are, {ei} seems a pretty clear case of a non-truth functional complex -- imposing or acknowledging an obligation, and thus true or false -- if at all -- independently of the truth of the bridi attached. --part1_14d.12a0a8b6.2a92b875_boundary--