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la pycyn cusku di'e

><<In that case, you would claim:
>
>      la djak naku djuno ro du'u la djil sipna
>      Jack doesn't know (every) that Jill is asleep.
>
>Even though he does know that Jill is asleep. Odd at least.
> >>
>
>Why so?

Because it doesn't correspond to anything in natlangs as far
as I can tell.


><<
>{tu'o} suggests itself to me: the non-quantifier quantifier.
>I suppose I have been using {lo'e} as {tu'o lo}.
> >>
>And this differs from {su'o lo} exactly how?

In that tu'o does not quantify over the members of lo'i.
It only extracts the intension.


>Why do {le} and {lo} bring in manifestations.  They refer to members of the
>set lo'i nu mi citka lo cakla, and every member of that set is an event,
>abstract, not an occasion, manifestation.

What would {re nu mi citka lo cakla} be, other than two occasions
real or imaginary, but occasions?

If they are not occasions, is there any way to refer to occasions
in Lojban?

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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