From sentto-44114-15874-1032450505-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Thu Sep 19 08:50:47 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 19 Sep 2002 08:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.99]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17s3Zk-0003l8-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 08:50:45 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-15874-1032450505-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.97] by n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Sep 2002 15:48:27 -0000 X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 19 Sep 2002 15:48:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 85341 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2002 15:48:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Sep 2002 15:48:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.240.133) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2002 15:48:13 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 08:48:12 -0700 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:48:12 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2002 15:48:12.0951 (UTC) FILETIME=[F60CA270:01C25FF3] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 15:48:12 +0000 Subject: RE: [lojban] lo'e, le'e, tu'o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1362 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list la and cusku di'e > > >BTW, this automatically gives us a useful meaning for > > >{le'e} -- it would mean {(ro) le pa}. > > > > Don't you mean {tu'o le tu'o}? > >Outer quantifier could just as well be tu'o, yes, as per my >above remarks. I think it must be {tu'o}, or you are left with plain {le}. >The inner one, though, is the cardinality >specifier, and I'm not sure what tu'o would mean as a cardinality >specification. On further thought, I agree that the inner cannot be {tu'o}. But it need not be {pa}, either. The inner quantifier remains the cardinality of the underlying set {le'i}, before the collapse into one individual takes place, so in general for {le} it could still be {su'o}. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/MVfIAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/