From sentto-44114-16003-1032726458-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sun Sep 22 13:30:18 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 22 Sep 2002 13:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.77]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17tDMt-0005Ao-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 13:30:15 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16003-1032726458-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.194] by n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2002 20:27:38 -0000 X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 22 Sep 2002 20:27:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 88803 invoked from network); 22 Sep 2002 20:27:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m12.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Sep 2002 20:27:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r10.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.106) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Sep 2002 20:27:37 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.11.) id r.172.f01b4c0 (25711) for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2002 16:27:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <172.f01b4c0.2abf81b5@aol.com> To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10509 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Profile: kaliputra MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 16:27:33 EDT Subject: [lojban] Re: Sets and classes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_172.f01b4c0.2abf81b5_boundary" X-archive-position: 1490 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pycyn@aol.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --part1_172.f01b4c0.2abf81b5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/22/2002 6:15:58 AM Central Daylight Time, a.rosta@lycos.co.uk writes: << > "Only if {selcmi} can mean {se cmima be zi'o}". The empty > set is definitely not a se cmima. However, it might well > be a selcmi. >> Only if {selcmi} by itself is genuinely a lujvo and thus open to a new reading altogether. Several reasons have been given agains this view. This is the first vaguely convincing case in its favor. --part1_172.f01b4c0.2abf81b5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/22/2002 6:15:58 AM Central Daylight Time, a.rosta@lycos.co.uk writes:

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"Only if {selcmi} can mean {se cmima be zi'o}". The empty
set is definitely not a se cmima. However, it might well
be a selcmi.

>>
Only if {selcmi} by itself is genuinely a lujvo and thus open to a new reading altogether. Several reasons have been given agains this view. This is the first vaguely convincing case in its favor.

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