From sentto-44114-16028-1032792485-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Mon Sep 23 07:50:55 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 23 Sep 2002 07:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.93]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17tUXy-0001de-00 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 07:50:50 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16028-1032792485-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.196] by n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2002 14:48:05 -0000 X-Sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_3); 23 Sep 2002 14:48:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 86723 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2002 14:48:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Sep 2002 14:48:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO com1.uclan.ac.uk) (193.61.255.3) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Sep 2002 14:48:02 -0000 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:15:51 +0100 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:48:26 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 To: lojban From: And Rosta X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:48:21 +0100 Subject: [lojban] importing quantifiers (was: Re: tu'o usage Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1516 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list The only place where the importing/nonimportingness of ro makes an obvious difference, as far as I can see, is as an inner quantifier, and to my mind it is very useful that {lo'i broda}={lo'i ro broda} not exclude {lo'i no broda}. If I want to exclude {lo'i no broda} I can say {lo'i su'o broda}. The rest of the discussion is too abstruse and too angelic-pinhead- terpsichorean even for me! I humbly place my faith in xorxes to show me the light & guide me on the True Path. --And. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/ySSFAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/