From sentto-44114-16122-1033137300-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri Sep 27 07:43:31 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 27 Sep 2002 07:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.77]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17uwL3-0002T3-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 07:43:29 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16122-1033137300-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.198] by n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2002 14:35:00 -0000 X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 27 Sep 2002 14:34:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 43689 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2002 14:34:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Sep 2002 14:34:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.87) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Sep 2002 14:34:59 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.159] by n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2002 14:34:51 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20020927061015.GB24912@allusion.net> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster From: "jjllambias2000" X-Originating-IP: 200.49.74.2 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:34:49 -0000 Subject: [lojban] Re: paroi ro mentu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1610 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list la djorden cusku di'e > (particularly the > subset for which the planet hasn't yet been engulfed in its sun's > supernova or however else planets cease to be, and after which it > has formed). So I suggest {paroi le'e mentu}. pe'ipei Yes, I guess you're right. That would neatly solve the scope issue too, though I'm becomeing more convinced that the sumti always must have scope over the tag: {ze'a ro mentu} can never be the same ze'a for each minute. {rere'u ro djedi} can never be the same second time for every day. {ciroi ro masti} can never be the same three times every month. So, I would say that the tag always falls within the scope of the sumti's quantifier. (Unless someone comes up with interesting cases where the opposite interpretation makes sense.) > (btw; on a tangent: what the hell does x3 and x4 of plini mean? lojbab knows! > Has anyone ever used them in a sentence?) Of course not! :) mu'o mi'e xorxes ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/GSaulB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/