From noras@lojban.org Fri Sep 27 14:44:58 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:44:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lakemtao02.cox.net ([68.1.17.243]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 17v2ut-0004S3-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:44:55 -0700 Received: from nora.lojban.org ([68.100.206.153]) by lakemtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20020927214143.KKMC12192.lakemtao02.cox.net@nora.lojban.org> for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2002 17:41:44 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020927175025.02db8ab0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: noras@pop.east.cox.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 17:53:56 -0400 To: lojban-list@lojban.org From: Nora LeChevalier Subject: [lojban] Re: interactions between tenses, other tenses, and NA In-Reply-To: References: <200209270333.XAA19087@mail2.reutershealth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 1642 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: noras@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list la xorxes cusku di'e: >la djan cusku di'e > > > The principle is that everything is exported > > to the prenex in the order in which it (first) appears, *except* NA, > > which is always exported to the very beginning. In that way, >inserting > > "na" before the selbri (mixed with tenses any way you like) is >always the > > exact contradictory negation of the version without "na". > >I doubt this can work in practice. {na} is consistently misused >by almost everybody, so I suspect that the rule will be eventually >generalized to order of appearance, {na} not excepted. "na" exporting to first in the prenex is necessary for "na go'i" to work. "na go'i" MUST be the exact negation of the "xu" sentence to allow answering questions to work. xu do roroi klama le zarci .i na go'i You don't want "na go'i" to mean you always DON'T go to the store. -- mi'e noras noras@lojban.org Nora LeChevalier