From sentto-44114-16202-1033252969-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sat Sep 28 15:46:15 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.68]) by digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.05) id 17vQLk-0000Ol-01 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:46:12 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-16202-1033252969-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.192] by n13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2002 22:42:49 -0000 X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_1_1_4); 28 Sep 2002 22:42:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 4287 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2002 22:42:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Sep 2002 22:42:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m02.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.5) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2002 22:42:48 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id r.f8.226090ea (4012) for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2002 18:42:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10509 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Profile: kaliputra MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 18:42:43 EDT Subject: [lojban] Re: Context Leapers Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f8.226090ea.2ac78a63_boundary" X-archive-position: 1690 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pycyn@aol.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --part1_f8.226090ea.2ac78a63_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/27/2002 6:34:32 PM Central Daylight Time, a.rosta@lycos.co.uk writes: << > Now a widget that would insert it into a string of quantifiers at some > place other than where it physically lies would be cool, but the rules > & devices necessary to get it to work would be so burdensome to the > grammar and to the mind of the language user that the simplest option > would always be to reformulate so that quantifiers physically lie in > the place they are supposed to. > > I came to this conclusion after spending a long time -- months at > least, maybe longer -- trying to work out just the sort of widget > you are asking for. So here mine is the voice of experience not of > blinkered conservatism >> Thanks. I didn't have a lot of hope, but a report on experience is useful to drive home the nails. --part1_f8.226090ea.2ac78a63_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/27/2002 6:34:32 PM Central Daylight Time, a.rosta@lycos.co.uk writes:

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Now a widget that would insert it into a string of quantifiers at some
place other than where it physically lies would be cool, but the rules
& devices necessary to get it to work would be so burdensome to the
grammar and to the mind of the language user that the simplest option
would always be to reformulate so that quantifiers physically lie in
the place they are supposed to.

I came to this conclusion after spending a long time -- months at
least, maybe longer -- trying to work out just the sort of widget
you are asking for. So here mine is the voice of experience not of
blinkered conservatism

>>

Thanks. I didn't have a lot of hope, but a report on experience is useful to drive home the nails.
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